What I don't understand is if the editor hated my story so much (which is DEFINITELY the case) why bother reading the whole thing? The rejection made it obvious that the editor not only spent time finishing my story, but also put time into crafting the response. If I'd been reading a submission that I hated that much, I wouldn't have put myself through the whole thing.
What I don't understand is if the editor hated my story so much (which is DEFINITELY the case) why bother reading the whole thing? The rejection made it obvious that the editor not only spent time finishing my story, but also put time into crafting the response. If I'd been reading a submission that I hated that much, I wouldn't have put myself through the whole thing.
Shimmer and Beneath Ceaseless Skies both do a really great job on personal rejections. They get characters names right, they encourage future submissions and I feel like they mean it, they give actual reasons why they're passing.
Thank you for sending "The Other Side," but we've decided to pass.
Me: GAH! What made you decide against it? Also, you're welcome? I guess?
I know that the editor that wrote this to me was being nice, and a part of me really appreciates that, but mostly, I'm disgusted by the uselessness. And this is a better paying market than I've ever broken into (if it had been an acceptance it would be my first step to actually qualifying for SWFA) and I feel like I missed it by just a tiny bit, and I don't know WHY. It's frustrating.
This week is awesome!
I vastly prefer markets that take electronic submissions. I can't even send postal ones right now because I'm out of paper. Also it's raining and who wants to walk to the post office in the rain.
I also like places that want manuscripts in standard manuscript format. I hate when I have to go through a story and change something little, like denoting section breaks with *** instead of # or not indenting paragraphs and double spacing between them. I understand why editors ask for stuff like that--at least I think I do. It's probably mostly because they don't want to have to do it themselves. It might also be something of a test to see if submitters can follow directions. I can follow directions, but if there are too many silly changes I give up and look for someplace else to send my story to. Of course that also might be what the editors are going for.
Also, my super hero story "If You Weren't Murdering My Wife" has been passed up the ladder at Neo-Opsis Science Fiction.
Since my last update, I have been rejected by Fantasy Magazine, Shimmer, Electric Spec, and A Fly in the Amber.
I also got a very nice personal rejection from Strange Horizons. They actually gave me some useful feedback. I really appreciate it. ^_^ I'm going to edit the story they rejected and get it back out.
To me, this sounds like if f I want to know if they accepted me I have to wait till November, and check. It sounds like they don't intend to even send out rejections or acceptances. And if submitters have to check and find out if this market wants to run their story, do they also have to email them for a contract?
And the wording at the end seems pretty shady to me. "I can't critique you for free, but if you follow this link down here, you can pay me for one." It doesn't all that long to do a personalized rejection. It takes even less time to do a form, but it seems like this market doesn't even have time for that.
Bizarre.
I also sent out another story.
Thank you for submitting your manuscript, Journal of an Artist.
While the subject matter is of interest to our readers and the
story is well written, the story itself does not fit in well
with our current releases.
Thank you again for your interest, we hope you will submit again in
the future.
Also....
Thanks for your submission. Unfortunately, we cannot accept your story at this time. We appreciate the time and effort put into this story, and we hope that you will not hesitate to submit more work. We are glad that you're enjoying xxxxxxxx, and we hope that we will be able to feature some more of your work in the future. Once again, thank you, and please keep listening!
Awkwardly,
This one you could probably figure out who they are if you think about
it, so don't.
Both of these are perfectly fine rejection slips. The first one
frustrates me a little bit more, because it makes me feel like
the universe hates me. The second one is actually growing on
me. I'd worried that the story I sent them might be a bit too
dark, and if that is the case I wish they'd told me so. The
awkwardly thing as their signature was a bit weird. They don't
need to apologize to mefor not taking it. I'd rather they told
me why.
Damn. I really enjoyed Realms of Fantasy.
Pretension. If someone has a nosebleed, call it a nosebleed, don't talk about the twin red flags running down their chin. Don't have characters using words that you wouldn't use. Don't over describe stuff, and if you're going to use words that stand out as not being common, make them count for something. I'm not saying to go crazy limiting your vocabulary, and good words can be powerful, but don't use a big word when a shorter one would be clearer.
No hint of a speculative element within the first page or two.
Anything that has something sexual in the first or second paragraph. It squicks me out. I'm okay with sex in stories, if it's appropriate, but not in the opening. I don't know these characters yet, I'm not ready to be that close to them. Sexual action is not the sort I was talking about.
Things that get boring and drag on in the middle. Cut things that don't move the story along. I'm serious. If it's not interesting, I'm not going to read it. I don't care if your opening is good and your ending is brilliant, if the middle is like wading through a swamp, I'm not going to keep going.
Things with lame endings. I really hate when I get all of the way through something and then the end makes me feel like I wasted my time.
Vampires. I don't like vampires. I'm not huge on zombies, either. I'd like to like both of them, but I haven't seen any that were really well done. Not even in things that have been published. Pseudopod sometimes picks up things with zombies or vampires that I just can't stand.
That leads me into twists that I see coming. And that I don't want to happen. If I'm reading something and saying "Please don't let this be a vampire (or zombie) story" and then it is, I'm not happy.
That's all for now. I might come up with more later.
I submitted a story to Warrior Wisewoman and got a reply that it had made it through the first reading, and to be patient. Then I waited for over 150 days without hearing a thing. So I finally sent a query, which Roby James responded to quickly and politely, and my story was still under consideration.
This made me very happy, since I bought their last issue and really enjoyed it. I really wanted to be a part of this year's. I really respect the market and their focus and the quality of their product.
That was not to be. I got a rejection slip saying that they'd like to see the story again next year if I hadn't placed it. Which is nice... but it's not at the same time. This one really got my hopes up, and when that happens I inevitably end up crying over my rejection slip. It seems to me that they had to essentially choose between my story and another one, and I lost. I want to know why I wasn't good enough, but the rejection wasn't personal.
These near-misses are getting to me. I feel like I'm just not good enough, and that I'll never be good enough, no matter how hard I work or how long I try. My friends and my husband assure me that I'm wrong.
But I don't believe them. And the universe seems to be backing me up on this. Maybe the problem is my attitude. Maybe I need to be more positive and repeat things like, "I will make a professional sale in 2009," over and over again. It worked for Ellen. She got George Cloony on her show today. (Yes, I watch daytime tv at work.) But I can't. Hope hurts me every time. I can't embrace it.
Maybe I shouldn't be airing my insecurities and the fact that I cry over rejection slips on a public forum. I should be ashamed of my weakness, I suppose. But I said that I was writing this blog for people in my position so that they don't feel alone. So, I'm letting the internet know that sometimes I cry over my rejection slips. I'm bitter and angry and disillusioned. The only reason that I don't give up is because I'm too fucking stubborn. I have no faith that I will ever make it anywhere with my writing. None. Zero. Sometimes I have a little hope, but that never ends well.
I was thinking that a workshop might help get my writing up to the next level, but that's not a possibility. Even if I did get in (which I doubt) I couldn't actually go. Even if miracles happened and I ended up getting scholarship money/aid stuff, I couldn't leave my job for six weeks. I wouldn't have a job to come back to. There are a ton of massage therapists in Pittsburgh. Most of them would love my job. It's an awesome job. And since I'm an independent contractor instead of an employee, there's no reason for them to not have a therapist around for six weeks. And even if they would, I couldn't afford to not work for six weeks. Maybe if Paul found a full time job. Maybe. But with the economy the way it is, we're lucky to both have jobs at all.
On a completely different note, Triangulation submissions have opened again, and I've spent the past few Saturdays reading submissions. You can read fun updates about that on Joseph's and Pete's blogs. As Pete mentions, he's started sharing the rejection slip duty. We did get another negative response to a rejection. Of course it was one I wrote so I feel like it's a personal attack, which is completely ridiculous. I know that. It doesn't stop it from stinging, though. This guy wasn't nearly as out of line as the guy we banned, which actually sort of makes it worse. I can't just fall back on the dude being a whacko.
Clarkesworld reopened too, so I'm back to reading slush there, and I'm also reading stories for Flashing Swords.
It's amazing that I'm working on three publications and I'm honored to be a part of each of them.
I think I'm going to end this post on that high note. Some things are good. It's just hard to see them through the tears and the pain. Maybe that should be my mantra for 2009. "Focus on the good things."
Andromeda Spaceways Inflight Magazine rejected me after 223 days because they hadn't found a place for my piece and it's not their policy to hold on to a piece indefinitely.
I can't be too shocked about this whole debacle because my friend Pete had a similar experience with them some time ago, though his piece that the couldn't find space for was only 400 words. I don't know how long they held on to it before they just gave up the effort of finding space for it.
On the bright side, though, I got to hear about how awesome I am. That's never a bad thing.
I sent one of my flash pieces to Flash Me Magazine. We'll see if anything comes of that.
Email rejections from Fantasy (form) and Allegory (personal, and very nice, if not very helpful.) Need to update my chart, will do that eventually.
Wrote a new story yesterday, first new one for a while. I hadn't done much since before the wedding, not counting my aborted Nanowrimo attempt, which I don't count since it's not done. Well, it is and it really isn't, both at the same time. I have a beginning, middle, and end, but I need to go though and add sections from a second point of view and fill in a lot of detail and make it better. The biggest problem is I finished it just over 14,000 words in. That's a total Nanowrimo fail, but it is almost three times longer than anything else I've written, so as an exercise it wasn't a total waste of time. And I'll probably go back to it someday. Maybe.
Very personal.
*sigh*
I sent out everything that wasn't out already. Three postal and eight electronic submissions.
Also, I need to stop wasting time on Facebook. And get my house cleaned. And call about jobs and massage stuff and study for the NCBTMB and get up to my parents' house to get the stuff I left after the wedding and get the stuff for goodwill out of the hallway and oh shit my head is just going to explode. O_o
Reading slush for Clarkesworld is going really well. I'm enjoying it, even though nothing I've read has been accepted yet. It's hard to come up with things to say about really terrible pieces. It's much easier to give details for near misses. I mean, I can't just say, "This is terrible and made my eyes bleed." That's terrible. And mean. So I try to find things to say about everything. And I've made it a point to read the whole story, which is sometimes pretty painful. I have to admit, I've skimmed once or twice, but I do get to the end.
Also, the Drabblecast discussion forum isn't terribly active, but most of the responses to my story have been positive. Only one person really didn't like it. Of course, that one is the respoinse that sticks with me, which is completely stupid and I'm trying not to let it bother me.
Check it out! I'm very pleased with how it turned out. Norm Sherman's reading is superb, the sound effects and music are fun, and it's just awesome. It's the perfect venue for my over-the-top story.
You know what I hate? I hate when editors use the word "alas" in my rejection slip. It just irritates the crap out of me. It's not necessary, and it's not true. Skip it. If I ever use the word "alas" in a rejection slip, I hope someone calls me on it because it's bullshit.
Can you believe it??? I'm not sure I can.
Woot!
I worry that my stuff isn't weird enough, because I have been reading a lot lately, and most of it is pretty out there. I like most of it, but it's really nothing like what I write. People apparently don't publish stuff like the stuff I write.
I'm scared that I'll never make it. I work so hard, I send stories out over and over again...sometimes it feels like it's really for nothing. I'm scared that it's for nothing. I really want it to not be for nothing, and that's what makes it so scary. But I have to keep trying. It's all I can do.
I'm skipping my writers meeting tonight for chocolate covered strawberries. I love chocolate covered strawberries.
I should be starting to get to work reading slush for Mike pretty soon.
Wish me luck.
I really enjoy working as an editor. I love reading slush. Good, bad, great, horrible, I enjoy it all. And I learn from all of it, too. I worked on my college's literary magazine during all four years of my college career, and I was really missing it before I got involved with Triangulation. I'm going to get to work on it next year, too, and I'm am stoked.
I'm also getting the opportunity to work on Flashing Swords Magazine with another member of our writing group, Michael Brendan. I should be getting to work reading slush for him at the end of the month.
So, all of that is quite exciting.
I got "Seasons of Friendship" ready to mail to ROF, and I sent out five other stories via email. "If You Weren't Murdering My Wife" went to Strange Horizons, "Journal of an Artist" went to Cat Tales, "Tiffany and the Unicorns" went to Ballista, "Three Grams" went to Apex Digest, and "Larva Mother" went out to Warrior Wisewoman.
The only thing I have left to send is "Shadow Under the Barn" and I'm hoping to send it to the 2009 Pagan Fiction Award Contest, because when I sent it to NewWitch the woman in charge of the contest sent me an email telling me that she thought it would do well. Details were supposed to be out in their May issue of Pan Gaia, but I'm having problems finding details about it.
"Alas, this is not what I seek."
That's it. Seriously.
Why does it make me happy that I feel like they didn't even bother reading it? I have no idea. It doesn't make sense. Whatever. Maybe I'm still protected from feeling disappointment from the insane number of cookies I ate yesterday. Maybe it's because it's the complete opposite of yesterday's rejection, while still being a form.
Who knows! Now I have two stories that I have to send out. I need to get on that.
I haven't been this disappointed about anything in a long time. That's what I get for getting my hopes up. Damn, that sounds really bitter and horrible. I don't feel bitter and horrible. I just feel...sad. Really, really sad.
So, I'm stimulating the part I care about most. I already paid for my Realms of Fantasy subscription. I just got myself a subscription to Shimmer and I'm donating $5 to each Podcastle, Pseudopod, and Escape Pod. I know that's not much, but I'm struggling to keep my ends meeting, and at least it's something. And Alasdair Stuart tells me that every cent is appreciated every single time I listen to Pseudopod, so I'm going to feel good about it.
I am having a good day.
AND EVEN MORE AWESOME---also in my inbox was a response from AlienSkin Magazine. My ACCEPTANCE. They're going to print "Crossing" in their August/September issue and pay me $5 for it. WOOT.
Today is a good day for my writing. ^_^
Also got a personal rejection from Kaleidotrope for "The Journal of an Artist."
Still nothing from RoF. Today is the deadline I set for myself to send a query, because today marks half again their listed max response time. O_o So, I'm going to send one.
I edited my story "Prohibited Comfort," which is the one the WorD group work shopped last night. Wrote a new flash piece at work, too.
One of my fellow group members rungs his own website and makes money with it. He suggested that I write 200+ more flash pieces and then put them up on the internet every weekday for a year for people with desk jobs to read while they're trapped at work.
I am terrified and intrigued by this idea. I have a feeling that he's much more computer savvy than I am, but I do have friends who could help me set up a website in the way he suggested, and I also have the capacity to learn new things. And I write a lot. Maybe I could do 260 flash pieces. That's not too many words, really, if I keep them to around 150 words. It'll be a challenge, but I like challenges. Really the scary thing is coming up with that many ideas.
The mailbox remains my enemy.
Still waiting on RoF. I get butterflies every single time I open the mailbox. It's getting old.
I don't save paper rejection slips, but I do save electronic ones. They take up less space, I guess.
Here's my official vote for worst form rejection received so far.
Thank you for submitting your story to --------------, unfortunately your story was unsuccessful on this occasion. We encourage you to continue submitting stories, don't let this failure discourage you.
It's really the word "failure" that got to me. How did I fail? By writing the story? By sending it to this market? Or are they apologizing for their failure? I don't know, but it pissed me off. I know I shouldn't get mad at rejections, especially form ones, but still. -_-
This next one is pretty standard, but nice.
Thank you for your patience and for giving me the opportunity to read your manuscript. Sorry, but I will have to pass on this one as it's not quite what I'm looking for. I appreciate your interest in ---------- and hope that you will keep me in mind for future submissions.
I like rejections like that. Maybe they mean it, maybe they don't, but at least they're being nice.
Here are some nice personal things.
I have to confess the image of the toasts jumping up and down on the dance pads cracked me up! Unfortunately, I just didn't think there was enough of a story here for this piece to be really successful.
I have to say I don't see nearly enough badger-based fiction. But for me, the scientific unlikeliness, and the unpleasant female protagonist, outweighed its badgerly charms. I hope you're able to find a good home for it soon.
Those are both from the same market. I submit to them a lot. They are pretty amazingly nice. They are also fast, which is awesome.
Here are a couple harsher personal rejection quotes.
We are looking for the new, and aggressive bread products are certainly unusual, but we're afraid toast and muffins just don't make for fascinating monsters. We also felt Elayne seemed almost simple-minded, with an interior life not sufficiently complex to make her an effective narrative voice. The action also felt clumsy in places,
Your brief tale of a giant radioactive mutant badger disturbed in its lair by a UN team tried to be amusing but never really delivered on the humor.
Also from the same place, and actually about the same stories. I didn't plan that, but it's actually pretty cool. I submit to this market because if he can't break me and get me to stop submitting stuff, no one can.
One more, from the same place.
Thanks, but not for us. You're surely aware of the risk in writing in a unicorn story in 2007, as you even write in the story "She felt like a cliché." Sadly, she was a cliché: the cliché of a character waiting in a bar (we get a couple of those each day) and, as a female, contemplating her own appearance so that the reader can know what she looks like (the oldest trick in the book, even if she simply remembers what she looks like in a mirror instead of just looking in a mirror). Really, the first four grafs can be sliced off without any loss to the story at all. Now, I did kind of like the idea of unicorns causing golf course wrecks and cancer and all that -- it was funny and I get the joke -- but there was just too much other stuff and not enough of the paranoia. Also, the bit where the unicorns kill her falls flat. I hope I'd be thinking something more visceral and interesting if unicorns ever stabbed me to death.
I'm not saying that he's not right. He probably is. And maybe it could be useful if it didn't seem so mean and get me instantly on the defensive. I don't know. I don't ever expect this market to print me, I just keep on sending stuff to toughen myself up. Also, to make him read it, because I feel like he hates me and my stuff and I'm petty.
Anyway, if anyone else that I know has received over 61 rejections in the past year plus a few months, feel free to tell me so.
I've been waiting to hear back from Realms of Fantasy for 129 days now. I got an email from their slush reader to tell me he was passing my story up the ladder. I was very happy. I'm still happy about it, but I really want to know if they're printing it or not. I'm tired of waiting. At the same time I don't want to get an answer because then I won't be able to hope anymore, and I want them to print me sooooooooo bad. It's such a nice magazine. I've got a subscription and everything. Because it's nice.
I have 19 stories out on the market right now. One of them is creative nonficiton. The rest are science fiction, fantasy, or horror, though the horror are really just dark science fiction or fantasy. I have 6 stories that are finished, but need more work before I can send them out.
I have stories out at Realms of Fantasy, Ploughshares, Beyond Centauri, Andromeda Spaceways Inflight Magazine, From the Asylum, Kaleidotrope, AlienSkin Magazine, Les Bonnes Fees, Aberrant Dreams, Asimov's Science Fiction, Cricket, The Town Drunk, Dreams & Nightmares, Coyote Wild, Escape Pod, Chizine, Horror Garage, and Pseudopod.
I write a lot, and I submit a lot. A lot. More than anyone else I know, I think. I know that I have claimed more rejection prizes from my writing group than anyone else.
My writing group is awesome. I'm a member of Write or Die. They keep me motivated to write, they give great advice, and they're all around great people and I enjoy spending time with them.
| Boy Meets Girl | SF | R-1 | A-1 |
| Crossing | H | R-2 | A-1 |
| First Time | SF | R-1 | A-0 |
| Fox-Woman | F | R-7 | A-0 |
| The Ghost Under the Ice | F | R-3 | A-1 |
| The Gluttongreedy | F | R-3 | A-0 |
| Halloween Party | SF | R-5 | A-0 |
| If You Weren't Murdering My Wife | SF | R-4 | A-0 |
| Journal of an Artist | SF | R-7 | A-0 |
| Larva Mother | SF | R-1 | A-0 |
| The Last of Her Kind | SF | R-1 | A-0 |
| Lullaby to Loneliness | F | R-10 | A-0.5 |
| The Minotaur's Garden | SF | R-1 | A-0 |
| The Other Side | SF | R-7 | A-0 |
| Protection from the Darkness | SF | R-4 | A-0 |
| Rapunzel Station | SF | R-4 | A-0 |
| Seasons of Friendship | F | R-4 | A-1 |
| Shadow Twin | F | R-4 | A-0 |
| Shadow Under the Old Barn | F | R-3 | A-0 |
| Sleeping Beauty | F | R-10 | A-0 |
| Snuffles | SF | R-6 | A-1 |
| Theater Cat | F | R-4 | A-0 |
| Three Grams | SF | R-3 | A-0 |
| Tiffany and the Unicorns | F | R-14 | A-0 |
| Toast | SF | R-8 | A-1 |


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